Nancy B. Artingstall: Do you know what? You play it too safe. Susan Cooper: Oh maybe you're right. I just... I still, you know, hear my mom's voice... "well-behaved women often make history." Nancy B. Artingstall: Yes you do know the phrase is, "well-behaved women *seldom* make history." Susan Cooper: Yeah that's never how she said it. Nancy B. Artingstall: What were her others, uh... Susan Cooper: Oh, "just blend in, let somebody else win." Nancy B. Artingstall: Classic. Susan Cooper: I got that a lot in high school. And there was, "give up on your dreams, Susan." She used to write that in my lunchbox.